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I found one!

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I have a collection of newspapers from the Paducah Sun & the Lexington Herald that we’re printed after each of UK’s national championship wins. But yesterday, I just forgot to pick one up.

But I found one.

The Paducah Sun still has a few copies of yesterday’s paper for sale. So I grabbed a few for me and the boys.

I find so mug joy in my hobbies. Mountain Biking, running, NCAA basketball, fishing, music, boating, camping… etc. These feel like gifts from God to me. And I am learning how to enjoy and be more and more at peace with life.

These memories will always be there. And hopefully, my sons will develop similar loves for things that bring joy like these do in my life.

I am teaching this week, Holy Week, at 10 different worship gatherings in Paducah, Calvert City & Eddyville on a similar topic.

Are you a happy person? Is your joy only momentary? Does it come as go or does your happiness stay even when things are hard?

This is the focus this Easter at Four Rivers Church.


Rejuvenation

Yesterday I wrote an article called “Tired” that seems to have started some healthy conversation about working hard, finishing what we start and going to bed with a feeling of accomplishment.

Mondays are my day off, my Sabbath. And the role of Monday is rejuvenation. So today, I spent some time on the elipticle, lifted some weights, watched a little tv, read the Bible, had a few good meals and went on a date with Stephanie.

It wasn’t all rest. I also spent an hour in a phone counseling/coaching session with a church planter, spent about an hour on the phone planning with 4RC staff and played with my kids.

All in all, it was a very restful day.

Thanks for reading. I love you all.


Do you love Jesus? Really?

 

I hear that statement all the time.  ”I love Jesus.”  And it perplexes me to try and get to the bottom of the statement.  Because as I read what Jesus said about loving Him, I see that its so much more than an emotion, desire, hope or outlook.  Loving Jesus takes commitment.

The more I read Scripture, the more I realize that with ‘loving Jesus,’ comes loving several other things.  For instance, in John 15, Jesus is teaching about what it means to be connected to Him in love.

And in that passage alone, He makes it clear that those who truly love Jesus will also…

1.  Love other Christians (love the church sacrificially.)  And this is a very sacrificial love.  He reminds us to lay our lives down for one another… just as He did for us.  But I see such different responses from Christians who ‘love Jesus.’  I mean, its hard enough to get some of them to show up at a worship gathering, much less give any money to the cause or serve in a way that is regular and reliable.  But they are sure that they ‘love’ Jesus.

Jesus says that if we love him, we will love one another the way he loved us… laying down our life for one another…

If you don’t sacrificially love the church & the mission of the church, you probably don’t love Jesus as much as you think that you do.

 

2.  Produce fruit.  This is a metaphorical way of saying that the world around us will be better because we love Jesus, love the church & then love the mission of the church.

There is no doubt.  That with love for Jesus, comes commission from Jesus.  You don’t have a loving relationship with Him without Him giving you orders.  And you don’t love Him if you regularly say no to those orders.

Read what Psalm 1:1-2 says about loving God by obeying his commands.

 

I so want the people of our region to love Jesus.  I would give most anything to see that happen.  He is so worth loving.  And the life He gives is amazing.

So don’t miss out.  Jesus loves you… love Him back.  And out of that love, serve Him by loving the Church & loving the mission of the church which is to see people who don’t know Jesus connect to Him and transformed by Him.

It’s really the best life.

 

 


Review of “THE TANGIBLE KINGDOM” by Hugh Halter & Matt Smay

I think I was one of the first to read “The Tangible Kingdom” book right after it came out.  I literally bought my first copy off of a card table at a conference from Hugh, one of the writers.  Since that time I have recommended this “The Tangible Kingdom” to many people.  I’ve personally purchased probably 10 copies to give them away.

What’s strange is that not everyone applies the teaching of the book in the same way I would.  The conversation surrounding the book has actually caused some nationally to abandon many things about the church.  And in turn, in order to discourage that, Matt and Hugh, the writers, wrote another book called “AND” that I have also read and recommended… its picture is above.

Anyway…  I wrote the below review a year or so ago and posted it under the former page called “Favorite Reads.”

I’d love for you to let me know what you think about the quote below.

BTW… the picture above is of Hugh on the far right with the orange sleeves, then Alan Hirsch (God’s most active prophet in my life), then Matt Smay & honestly I don’t know the guy on the left side’s name.

The Review:

I’m certainly a fan of this book. I have asked our church’s leadership team as well as each of our River Group leaders to read it sometime this year. I think it’s going to be a big help in developing the ethos of the River Groups movement.

I’d like to focus on one paragraph. This citation comes from page 10 which is a part of the second chapter. And the paragraph is pointing to the philosophy of church that the book espouses.

“This type of new is about a returning. Returning to something ancient, something tried, something true and trustworthy. Something that has rerouted the legacies of families, nations, kings, and peasants. Something that has caused hundreds of thousands to give up security, reputation, and their lives. What we’re returning to has always been and must still be revolutionary. What we need to dig up, recover, and find again is the life of the Kingdom and Jesus’ community… the church. As we do, we’ll find that it’s not American… it’s ‘other world’; it’s not evangelicalism, it’s much more holistic and integrated into real life. It’s not anti-church; it’s pro-church. It’s about the type of church that Jesus would go to, the type he died to give flight to. It’s not about success, size of buildings, budget, or ‘salvations.’ It is about being faithful to live Christ’s alternative ways in the world again.”

I want so much to see this happen. Think about it… the church being genuinely about people (those whom Jesus came to save). The church has far too long been overly concerned with size, money, prestige and power. And although I certainly don’t think that those four words in and of themselves are bad… they certainly can’t be the ‘main priority.’

People are the only thing that deserve that title. Jesus died for people.

Although I wouldn’t personally agree that this is not ‘evangelicalism,’ I would certainly love to see 4RC continue to become this kind of church.

The thought that one day our true identity as a church will come from our many house church’s (River Groups) and that our weekend worship experiences will be apostolic gatherings aimed at empowering and encouraging the home groups… that’s cool. And Biblical mind you…

I encourage my friends and family to read this great and helpful work…


What about Speaking in Tongues, Prophesy, Gifts of Healing…

Hey everyone,

This Sunday I will be teaching the third week of THE GHOST where we are looking at the role of the Holy Spirit in the life of the church.  This week we will be dealing with what is known as ‘Spiritual Gifts.’

I would love for you to be there.

So what gifts do you think you have?  Let me know right here.


Should pastors have other jobs?

“So what else do you do?” is a question that is asked of me pretty often.  I guess the assumption is that pastors really do only work on Sundays and therefore, should have other jobs…  This is a question about which I am thinking nearly every hour of the day.

As I’ve said before, I’m a self-professed work-a-holic.  I have to be careful or I will work too much.  I think I come by this honestly.  My dad was a high school math teacher who drove a school bus every day of the year, refereed basketball and baseball and worked a summer job while school was out as either a delivery truck driver or a golf course ranger.

It is because of things like this that my dad was able to pay for my college, stay out of major debt and be there for me if I ever had a need.  And I certainly want to be that to my kids.

When I succumb to the call of ministry, lol, I anticipated that I would spend my life working for the church.  I was raised in a large church with a pastor who was well educated, worked hard, was compensated well and had no need for additional work.

So, when I became a pastor, I sought after a good education.  I have the terminal degree for my field from one of the country’s most well respected schools.  I always thought that this would mean that I would always be a ‘fully funded’ pastor.

But recently I have been considering otherwise.

My church has always struggled financially.  Even though we are a fairly large church who handles money very well, we tend to operate with a fairly small budget.  Some would blame this on the economy, younger adults not giving like their parents and grand parents did, and basically the world around us not valuing giving to the church as previous generations.  Add to that the globalization that has happened which helps people connect to many other very worthy causes through financial donations.

I’m not sure all of the specific variables which contribute to the need to operate off of a smaller per capa budget.

But, with that said, we have always learned to do what is necessary to grow the kingdom and spread the gospel…

So now, we are asking ourselves if ‘bivocational ministry’ is the next step to effectiveness.  ’Bivocational minsitry’ is the title given to churches whose pastors operate a full time ministry with part time pay.  These pastors raise funding elsewhere to fully meet their families needs.

This would mean that our fully funded pastors find part time employment elsewhere in order to reduce their compensation from the church.  It would also mean that the church would have to learn to adapt to having fewer usable hours from their pastors.  It would mean that very important roles would need to be covered by volunteer hours from different people within the congregation.  It would mean that pastors might be less accessible at times.  And that more would certainly be expected from the congregation as a whole.  I could see this being very good for us if people rise to the occasion.

For me personally, the up side to this move is that I can now explore some of my passions that I have always placed on hold for the sake of the church.  For instance, I’ve started teaching college courses for Mid Continent University.  I absolutely love doing it and it scratches an itch that I’ve had for a long time.  I’ve also interviewed for a few other jobs… each with their own interesting scenario.

If we choose to go down this road, it will mean some organizational reorganization… lol.  But if this is to be our future, or at least temporary future, I am excited to try it.  I, as well as our other fully funded pastor, are open to God’s will in this moment and looking forward to the results of disciplined obedience in this area.

So what do you think?  Have you wondered what we pastors do with our day?  When you hear me say that I worked 60 hours in a week, do you secretly wonder… how?  How do you think your church would fair if they chose to utilize bivocational pastors…


Ordering My Life with Holistic Godliness in Mind

I woke up this morning thinking about this.

I want to start my planning over… start with a blank calendar and begin writing down allocated times for the most important things. And I hope to do it on some sort of a Holistic Godliness scale.

For instance, spending the appropriate time listening to my boys talk about their day and helping them with their homework might not normally find its way to the top of the priority list… but maybe it should.

So, I would probably start with time focused on God, prayer, Bible study and then focus time on my wife and boys and simply being with them. Then I would care for myself with time to eat in a healthy way and exercise appropriately.

And I sense that there would still be time for all the needed work, travel, coaching, mowing, etc.

But in the long run, it would prioritize my relationship with God, my family and caring for my physical needs in the process so that I can be more to the rest of the responsibilities in my life.

I think budgeting could probably also be done this way. In fact, I think Ive handled our families budget this way for years. Its probably why my wallet is in better shape than my waste line…

So stay tuned… I plan on writing about this more over the next few weeks.

My first three things to be written in ink would be:

1. Time alone with God focused on prayer, Bible study and worship.
2. Focused time with Stephanie & the boys.
3. Time set aside to eat healthy and exercise my body and mind.

What would you first three entries be?


Rate These SINS in Order of Badness

Ok. So here is the challenge…

I know that sins are not rated by Scripture. I realize that all sin is effective to cause death and separate us from a Holy God.

But some are different in the amount of earthly pain they cause. Rate these and tell me why.

Murder
Lieing
Lust
Violent anger
Revenge
Bitterness
Covetousness
Greed
Envy


So whadya think about Stephen Cole

Today at the Paducah Campus of Four Rivers Church, we were graced with the worship leading presence of my twitter and Facebook friend Stephen Cole via video.

From my perspective, it seemed to go really well. People sang, raised hands, shouted praise, cried, etc. But I’m not always convinced by outer measurement of worship. So tell me your story.

How was today for you?


If you love to worship… Stephen Cole leading worship at Four Rivers Paducah tomorrow

Due to a few unexpected and last minute decisions, a Facebook & Twitter friend of mine named Stephen Cole will be leading worship at the Paducah Campus in the morning. Now everyone, this is a special treat for us. You should really consider finding a way to be there if you are looking for a church or are part of the Paducah Campus in any way.

I tweeted back and forth with Stephen tonight and he is ultra excited.

Stephen is one of the most well known worship leaders in America. His musical style blend of rock and jazz sounds is well known and exciting. If you like Bruno Mars, Lincoln Brewster or Steve Fee, then you will love the worship music tomorrow at the Paducah Campus.

Thanks to the use of video technology Stephen will be leading us in singing the outstanding songs, “All Because of Jesus” by Steve Fee, “How He Loves” by John McMillan & “Today is the Day” by Lincoln Brewster & Paul Baloche.

We will also be having a blast with some cool stuff in the parking lot and kicking off the new series, “The Ghost.”

Tomorrow is a great day to come to Four Rivers. Be here at either 9:15 or 11:00

We have campuses in Paducah and Calvert City.

Whether you’re hungry or hurt, lonely or lost, full of questions or looking for a home, there’s a place for you at Four Rivers.


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